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on one side, you have establishment, john boehner and mitch mcconnell. to them, the election was lost because the conservative ideologues pulled him so right he could never find his way back in november. on the other side, jim demint, rick santorum and the industrial complex that make the same argument ideologues always make when they lose, the problem our guy wasn't ideological enough. the problem is going out in technicolor with demint bolting out to become the ceo of the conservative movement. joining me is the former head of the rnc and joy reed, managing editor of rio.com, also one of us. this is what happens when you go near the misery index, the rush limbaugh show. yesterday, jim demint, still the united states senator from south carolina and the out-going heritage foundation president dent and rush made fun of the speaker. let's listen. >> well, i think it's safe to say boehner is not forcing either of you guys out, right? >> that's pretty true. it might work a little bit the other way, rush. >> what do you make of that? it might work a little bi
on one side, you have establishment, john boehner and mitch mcconnell. to them, the election was lost because the conservative ideologues pulled him so right he could never find his way back in november. on the other side, jim demint, rick santorum and the industrial complex that make the same argument ideologues always make when they lose, the problem our guy wasn't ideological enough. the problem is going out in technicolor with demint bolting out to become the ceo of the conservative...
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you have demint out there running a candidate against mitch mcconnell to his right, almost beating him last time around, trying to move the party to the right. selecting candidates like sharron angle and some of the whackier ones like christine o'donnell. all around the country always trying to get several notches to the right of what we have. bob bennett, not right wing enough, orin hatch, not right win enough, john mccain not right wing -- their idea of right wing is way out, and the leader of them all is this guy who is leaving the senate. how do you see it? >> i think this is the place where the conservative movement and the republican party often times part ways, and jim demint has been the burr in the bonnet of mitch mcconnell who people on the left think of as this hard right intransigent guy because he said his top priority was making barack obama a one-term president, but really mitch mcconnell in a lot of ways is like john boehner. an old-time dealmaker. people like jim demint can't stand people like that. they feel the party has become to easy to capitulate. remember with th
you have demint out there running a candidate against mitch mcconnell to his right, almost beating him last time around, trying to move the party to the right. selecting candidates like sharron angle and some of the whackier ones like christine o'donnell. all around the country always trying to get several notches to the right of what we have. bob bennett, not right wing enough, orin hatch, not right win enough, john mccain not right wing -- their idea of right wing is way out, and the leader...
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you have demint out there running a candidate against mitch mcconnell to his right, almost beating him last time around, trying to move the party to the right. selecting candidates like sharron angle and some of the whackier ones like christine o'donnell. all around the country always trying to get several notches to the right of what we have. bob bennett, not right wing enough, john mccain not right wing -- their idea of right wing is way out, and the leader of them all is this guy who is leaving the senate. how do you see it? >> i think this is the place where the conservative movement and the republican party often times part ways, and jim demint has been the burr in the bonnet of mitch mcconnell who people on the left think of as this hard right intransigent guy because he said his top priority was making barack obama a one-term president, but really mitch mcconnell in a lot of ways is like john boehner. an old-time deal maker. people like jim demint can't stand people like that. they feel the party has become to easy to capitulate. remember with the budget control act when democra
you have demint out there running a candidate against mitch mcconnell to his right, almost beating him last time around, trying to move the party to the right. selecting candidates like sharron angle and some of the whackier ones like christine o'donnell. all around the country always trying to get several notches to the right of what we have. bob bennett, not right wing enough, john mccain not right wing -- their idea of right wing is way out, and the leader of them all is this guy who is...
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i mean, mitch mcconnell is not just craven. he believes to win the party, can't vote the way jim demint does. jim demint said, well, fine, here's seven people like me. i'll see you. >> one thing i think we sometimes forget when we talk about abstract party principles is something a guy like specter believed is you represent your constituents. and his constituents were not as conservative as jim demints in south carolina, as mitch mcconnells in kentucky and, of course, pennsylvania has been going very blue. that seems to me to be kind of the core argument here. one thing that's happened is these political parties have nationalized in a very big way, and demint's strategy, it appears to me to largely be to nationalize the elections. you have this big washington groups like freedom works or now heritage entering into these primaries that are in districts for house members and states for senators and trying to get people acceptable to the national republican party even if they're not seriously facility for the district or state the
i mean, mitch mcconnell is not just craven. he believes to win the party, can't vote the way jim demint does. jim demint said, well, fine, here's seven people like me. i'll see you. >> one thing i think we sometimes forget when we talk about abstract party principles is something a guy like specter believed is you represent your constituents. and his constituents were not as conservative as jim demints in south carolina, as mitch mcconnells in kentucky and, of course, pennsylvania has...
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mcconnell saying i think it was just demeaning for them to ask the treasury secretary to come up here and give a proposal like this and by this we have people saying it's a sham, it's -- you know, ridiculous, it's a nonstarter. when you went up there, you didn't think republicans were going to go "good idea." >> you know, what we're trying to do is get these guys to come together and reach an agreement that's going to be good for the country and good for the economy. >> by these guys you mean you all and the republicans. >> and democrats together. >> and the white house. >> that's what we're trying to do. what we did was put forward a very comprehensive, very carefully designed mix of savings and tax reforms to help us put us back on the path to stabilizing our debt and fixing our debt and living within our means. we've been very detailed about how to do that, both on the spending side and revenue side, and we think this is a good plan for the country, and it does the most important thing, which is it gives 98% of americans the certainty your taxes aren't going to go up, and it gives
mcconnell saying i think it was just demeaning for them to ask the treasury secretary to come up here and give a proposal like this and by this we have people saying it's a sham, it's -- you know, ridiculous, it's a nonstarter. when you went up there, you didn't think republicans were going to go "good idea." >> you know, what we're trying to do is get these guys to come together and reach an agreement that's going to be good for the country and good for the economy. >> by...
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you've got mitch mcconnell, who's running for re-election. you've got eric cantor, looking over speaker boehner's shoulder. he'd love to have that job. i mean, how can you get an honest broker out of the republican camp, when all of this stuff is swimming around? you've got the hard right-wing tea partyers out there. you've got mcconnell looking at possibly being in a real tough re-election. and as i said, you know, boehner, is he protecting his backside or the american people? i mean, this doesn't have the framework or the dichotomy of a good deal from their standpoint, does it? >> well, i think one of the reasons that they're on defense is the fact that the president is willing to take this fight outside the beltway. inside the beltway, there's a whole fuzzy logic that starts to apply, where you lose track of what it means to be in the middle class and how serious the economic situation is. and i think as the president continues to make that case about basic economic fairness, one that nearly two-thirds of voters in this election felt that
you've got mitch mcconnell, who's running for re-election. you've got eric cantor, looking over speaker boehner's shoulder. he'd love to have that job. i mean, how can you get an honest broker out of the republican camp, when all of this stuff is swimming around? you've got the hard right-wing tea partyers out there. you've got mcconnell looking at possibly being in a real tough re-election. and as i said, you know, boehner, is he protecting his backside or the american people? i mean, this...
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. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell made history in the senate today. he called for a vote on his debt limit bill. democrats called his bluff and then believe it or not, mcconnell filibustered his own bill. congressman chris van hollen joins me on all of the latest fiasco surrounding the fiscal cliff. >>> president obama is taking his fiscal cliff plan to the people. will republicans buckle under public pressure? msnbc's political analyst michael eric dyson and democratic strategist donna gentile-o'donnell will weigh in on that tonight. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." president obama has put house speaker john boehner and republicans in a box on fiscal cliff negotiations. and the evidence is mounting. president obama stayed on offense today, visiting the santana family in northern virginia whose taxes will go up more than $4,000 in 2013 if middle class tax cuts aren't extended. >> i'm encouraged to see that there's been some discussion on the part of republicans acknowledging the need for additional revenue. as i've indicated, the only way to get the
. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell made history in the senate today. he called for a vote on his debt limit bill. democrats called his bluff and then believe it or not, mcconnell filibustered his own bill. congressman chris van hollen joins me on all of the latest fiasco surrounding the fiscal cliff. >>> president obama is taking his fiscal cliff plan to the people. will republicans buckle under public pressure? msnbc's political analyst michael eric dyson and democratic...
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. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell made history in the senate today. he called for a vote on his debt limit bill. democrats called his bluff and then believe it or not, mcconnell filibustered his own bill. congressman chris van hollen joins me on all of the latest fiasco surrounding the fiscal cliff. stay with us. he's going to apply testosterone to his underarm. axiron, the only underarm treatment for low t, can restore testosterone levels back to normal in most men. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children or changes in body hair or increased acne in women may occur. report these signs and symptoms to your doctor if they occur. tell your doctor about all medical conditions and medications. do not use if you have prostate or breast cancer. serious side effects could include increased risk of prostate cancer; worsening prost
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. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell made history in the senate today. he called for a vote on his debt limit bill. democrats called his bluff and then believe it or not, mcconnell filibustered his own bill. congressman chris van hollen joins me on all of the latest fiasco surrounding the fiscal cliff. stay with us. but they haven't experienced extra strength bayer advanced aspirin. in fact, in a recent survey, 95% of people who tried it agreed that it relieved their headache fast. visit fastreliefchallenge.com today for a special trial offer. the distances aren't getting shorter. ♪ the trucks are going farther. the new 2013 ram 1500. ♪ with the best-in-class fuel economy. engineered to move heaven and earth. ♪ guts. glory. ram. >>> president obama is taking his fiscal cliff plan to the people. will republicans buckle under public pressure? msnbc's political analyst michael eric dyson and democratic strategist donna genteel-o'donnell will weigh in on that tonight. >>> the ceo of apple makes a big announcement about the future of the company's produ
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she looks like she's seriously exploring the possibility of running against mitch mcconnell in 2014 or rand paul in 2016. those are things she's seriously exploring. whether or not she gets into the race is a completely different question. as of right now she looks to be putting out feelers and considering a run. >> she's exploring. she's a recent harvard masters grad. what would she be able to bring politically. >> she certainly would have significant name recognition, more than any other potential democratic candidate. she would be able to raise a lot of money from not just democratic groups who are very excited by her liberal views and her politics, but also big donors, a lot of her allies in hollywood. but she does not have any elected experience. she has not run for political office before. much like someone against senate minority who is a shrewd campaigner who's very, very experienced. who's building a presidential level campaign operation. this would be a very, very tough bid. especially for a first time candidate like her. >> when i was reading your piece, i started thinking o
she looks like she's seriously exploring the possibility of running against mitch mcconnell in 2014 or rand paul in 2016. those are things she's seriously exploring. whether or not she gets into the race is a completely different question. as of right now she looks to be putting out feelers and considering a run. >> she's exploring. she's a recent harvard masters grad. what would she be able to bring politically. >> she certainly would have significant name recognition, more than...
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mitch mcconnell sort of blew his own leverage. dick gephardt and the others you've spoken to say about the way the current leadership is handling this. >> they're optimistic. when i talk to the former house majority leader gephardt yesterday, he said i feel like there's a rhythm to these things and we're in a rhythm now where the principles, the president and speaker are talking and not leaking those calls. if you saw both the white house was very cagey about the call yesterday between the two men, speaker boehner wouldn't talk about the -- what the conversation was, and so there's some feelings and progress but what gephardt did say was this is really hard because people are going to lose their seats if they vote for this and that, when you that kind of self-preservation it's very difficult and the public needs to get on board and support any kind of deal, not their preferred deal, but any kind of deal to help the leaders get there. >> i want to ask all of you, ari and susan and chris, about the cabinet decisions. we're told the
mitch mcconnell sort of blew his own leverage. dick gephardt and the others you've spoken to say about the way the current leadership is handling this. >> they're optimistic. when i talk to the former house majority leader gephardt yesterday, he said i feel like there's a rhythm to these things and we're in a rhythm now where the principles, the president and speaker are talking and not leaking those calls. if you saw both the white house was very cagey about the call yesterday between...
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not any points to mitch mcconnell. what about the folks that don't want to do that, they can't do that? they want to take it on the course of the school year and on my credit from the school of you we should've credit courses that we're not discriminating against people to allow skills. we have to have loan programs to reflect a 21st century student. the second thing i do is make sure students have more information and that's why sponsor the right to know before you collect which means before you take out the load students will be given information on how much ot to graduate. this is how much you can expect to make if you graduate at the super in this is how much you i you still want to get the philosophy major, that's fine. but it doesn't pay a lot of money into a 150 grand. >> not hurt republicans talking about these topics. louisiana governor bobby jindal -- [inaudible] >> i don't know about that. the challenge for the conservative movement and every movement to two your principles associate with her would ever test
not any points to mitch mcconnell. what about the folks that don't want to do that, they can't do that? they want to take it on the course of the school year and on my credit from the school of you we should've credit courses that we're not discriminating against people to allow skills. we have to have loan programs to reflect a 21st century student. the second thing i do is make sure students have more information and that's why sponsor the right to know before you collect which means before...
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mcconnell and thad cochran but they voted it down. the floor manager john kerry called it one of the saddest days in his nearly 28 days in the senate which he says is broken and dysfunctional. the chairman of the foreign relations committee john kerry joins me now. thank you very much. you spoke of this passionately yesterday and you've had an overnight to think about this, but the moment was clearly so compelling watching bob dole on the floor, wheeled in by his wife, the former senator elizabeth dole and you and john mccain and other war veterans calling for passage of this, it tell me your thoughts today? >> my first thought, andrea, hate to say this i can't believe you're already talking about 2016. i'm sorry to change -- >> i'm sorry about that too. >> that threw me at the outset here. >> my apologies. >> that said, let me say to you, yesterday was exactly as i described it, just a very, very sad day for the senate. because fear triumphed and politics triumphed, not the legitimate concerns of americans with disabilities who want
mcconnell and thad cochran but they voted it down. the floor manager john kerry called it one of the saddest days in his nearly 28 days in the senate which he says is broken and dysfunctional. the chairman of the foreign relations committee john kerry joins me now. thank you very much. you spoke of this passionately yesterday and you've had an overnight to think about this, but the moment was clearly so compelling watching bob dole on the floor, wheeled in by his wife, the former senator...
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reached into mitch mcconnell's own state of kentucky where mitch mcconnell had a hand picked junior senator and jim demint said i want my guy, rand paul, and fought mcconnell in his own state and beat him. that was a demonstration of the balance of power in the senate. and i think it left a lot of ill will behind. as we saw today in that not altogether enthusiastic announcement. >> not exactly crying when he heard jim demint was leaving. we're talking about mitch mcconnell. is this good for the democrats or bad for the democrats, donna? >> well, it's a mixed blessing, i think. i think on one hand he's a wonderful southern gentleman. everyone likes him personally. but everyone knows that he is to the right of just about everybody else in the united states senate when it comes to public policy and personnel in terms of going out there and recruiting other conservative republicans. it's a perfect match for the heritage foundation to have him at the helms. but i think in terms of overall, i don't believe this is going to hurt senator mcconnell at all. >> erick, for the conservative move
reached into mitch mcconnell's own state of kentucky where mitch mcconnell had a hand picked junior senator and jim demint said i want my guy, rand paul, and fought mcconnell in his own state and beat him. that was a demonstration of the balance of power in the senate. and i think it left a lot of ill will behind. as we saw today in that not altogether enthusiastic announcement. >> not exactly crying when he heard jim demint was leaving. we're talking about mitch mcconnell. is this good...
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they made an offer and mitch mcconnell laughed at that time yesterday. john boehner went on the sunday shows and said basically we're not interested in any of this. so it's not -- the onus is not on the republicans. they're the ones who haven't done anything since election day to try to advance the ball. >> stephanie: yep absolutely. oliver north on hannity's show -- oh, is he judging susan rice? her basic -- yeah. >> susan rice, if she gets to become -- i'll make a prediction for you. she gets to become secretary of state. you will see the united nations get -- get a united states shot on the arms control treaties that the united nations launch and they will supercede the constitution of the united states. that's where they're headed. >> oh, my god! >> this from the guy who sent weapons to the iranians, funding right wing death squads. and lied about it all. >> very glenn beckish right? going to be a world government. united nations is going to be -- you know, dictating american law and things like that. look, all of the crazy talk they did for the firs
they made an offer and mitch mcconnell laughed at that time yesterday. john boehner went on the sunday shows and said basically we're not interested in any of this. so it's not -- the onus is not on the republicans. they're the ones who haven't done anything since election day to try to advance the ball. >> stephanie: yep absolutely. oliver north on hannity's show -- oh, is he judging susan rice? her basic -- yeah. >> susan rice, if she gets to become -- i'll make a prediction for...
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and then mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate says, you know, what my goal is to make barack obama a one-term president. they're supposed to be leaders of the legislative branch of the government, not party hacks. and we have a system now, you know, that is all about looking toward the next election, how we do that. >> this is a strong indictment of the polarization of the two parties. >> yeah. >> but isn't the country also very polarized? >> the country is very polarized in some senses. but you also find the american people saying, "solve the problem. don't go over a fiscal cliff." or, you know, "pay our bills," or, "do something about the budget." now, i think even though the people tend to not be open to a lot of different views, they want the people they elect to make government work. >> so, we have created a political system that rewards intransigence. >> we've created a system that says, "we reward incivility. we reward refusal to compromise. we punish people who compromise and are civil and get along well with the people on the other side of the aisle." so, why
and then mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate says, you know, what my goal is to make barack obama a one-term president. they're supposed to be leaders of the legislative branch of the government, not party hacks. and we have a system now, you know, that is all about looking toward the next election, how we do that. >> this is a strong indictment of the polarization of the two parties. >> yeah. >> but isn't the country also very polarized? >> the country...
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minority leader mitch mcconnell is aghast at such a ploy claiming he's breaking the rules to change the rules. of course in 2005 when mcconnell was considering the same thing over president bush's judicial nominees, it was minority leader reid's turn to be aghast. therein lies the real issue. the party in power wants the ability to exercise power. but the american people want action. at the table steven spalding, staff counsel for common cause, a group suing the nat to have the filibuster declared unconstitutional. tara wall, dorian warren and lawyer and nbc latino contributor, raul reyes. >> all right, steven, how could it be unconstitutional? >> the constitution does say each chamber can set its own rules. we think the senate should be able to do that with a majority belief. contemporary to popular belief, the 11th amendment was thou shalt need 60 votes to pass a bill. if you go back to the founding, the founders in the federalist papers said they considered a super majority requirement and rejected it. they said to have a super majority requirement could be used by a corrupt hunt a t
minority leader mitch mcconnell is aghast at such a ploy claiming he's breaking the rules to change the rules. of course in 2005 when mcconnell was considering the same thing over president bush's judicial nominees, it was minority leader reid's turn to be aghast. therein lies the real issue. the party in power wants the ability to exercise power. but the american people want action. at the table steven spalding, staff counsel for common cause, a group suing the nat to have the filibuster...
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senators like orrin hatch, chuck grassley, mitch mcconnell, richard shelby, thad cochran. senator dole went to the floor today needing just five, yes votes from old friends. here's how bob dole's old friends voted. >> mr. cochran. mr. cochran. no. mr. shelby. mr. shelby, no. mr. grassley. mr. grassley, no. senators voting in the negative. mcconnell, mr. hatch, mr. hatch, no. >> bob dole needed five votes today. those five votes were all he needed. bob dole received into their hearts today. and found nothing. after the vote, john kerry said, it was one of the saddest days i've seen in almost 28 years in the senate. we know that when bob dole leaves us, which i hope doesn't happen for a very, very long time, those five men, if they're still with us, will rise on the they will know and we will know on the day when they could have honored bob dole. honored his vision as a legislator. honor his friendship and his personal kindnesses to him over many, many years. they failed bob dole. with one word, no. they failed their old friend. they dishonored themselves and they dishonored
senators like orrin hatch, chuck grassley, mitch mcconnell, richard shelby, thad cochran. senator dole went to the floor today needing just five, yes votes from old friends. here's how bob dole's old friends voted. >> mr. cochran. mr. cochran. no. mr. shelby. mr. shelby, no. mr. grassley. mr. grassley, no. senators voting in the negative. mcconnell, mr. hatch, mr. hatch, no. >> bob dole needed five votes today. those five votes were all he needed. bob dole received into their hearts...
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mcconnell. then the republicans came back, which speaker boehner said was a sound response. $800 billion in tax rev knew. with eric cantor and paul ryan's significant but positive -- >> congress can prevent all of this by passing a tax hike on the first $250,000 of income. 98% wouldn't see taxes go up by a single dime. the wealthiest americans would get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income and families everywhere would enjoy peace of mind. >> most polls show 60, 60% of americans agree, raise taxes on the wealthiest 2%. he won the election. >> he talked about that during the campaign however congressman randy forms of virginia, a republican, he's floating a theory which is that the president doesn't have to compromise. he might not even want to compromise because if there's no compromise, the president gets what he wants. >> the president doesn't really want to get an agreement or compromise. he wants to get his way. that's why he won't come to the table with any serious proposal and s
mcconnell. then the republicans came back, which speaker boehner said was a sound response. $800 billion in tax rev knew. with eric cantor and paul ryan's significant but positive -- >> congress can prevent all of this by passing a tax hike on the first $250,000 of income. 98% wouldn't see taxes go up by a single dime. the wealthiest americans would get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income and families everywhere would enjoy peace of mind. >> most polls show 60, 60% of...
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it doesn't help that it was mitch mcconnell who put this in place last year and, of course, now calls it outrageous power grab. when you give this administration an inch, it takes ten miles or a marathon. that's what they're doing here. >> gretchen: so you say it's a violation of the coalition. i want to move on to what you're deeming the merry croniness, christmas? >> merry croniness, that's right. >> gretchen: you know what? it saddens me to dismantle the word christmas by saying croniness. but explain what it is. >> it's christmas for obama bundlers. this is the annual ritual, the patronage rewards for his biggest 1% elitist donors and there have been reports now over the last week that anna winter, the fashion famous vogue editor who raised hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars for team obama, not just this year action but during the first term as well, is being considered for an ambassadorship for britain. and this is along with several other bundlers who have raised each more than half a million dollars for obama over the last campaign cycle, who are being considered for
it doesn't help that it was mitch mcconnell who put this in place last year and, of course, now calls it outrageous power grab. when you give this administration an inch, it takes ten miles or a marathon. that's what they're doing here. >> gretchen: so you say it's a violation of the coalition. i want to move on to what you're deeming the merry croniness, christmas? >> merry croniness, that's right. >> gretchen: you know what? it saddens me to dismantle the word christmas by...